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on another episode of hero paranormal

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podcast broadcasting

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from the base at la madre mountain

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just south of area 51 my name is ryan

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the original

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overseer of the airwaves bringing you an

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epic episode tonight

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to well

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now where do i start

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tonight's amazing guest is simon siddal

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not only is simon a great guy and

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returning guest

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he is founder at the conscious music

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school

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he has one of the most impeccable ears

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for music and how it relates to culture

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he is an impressive expert

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on musical magic weaponized sound and

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conscious composition

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the musical

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master transforming musicians into

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shamanic artists and enlightening those

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on his path along the way

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simon siddal welcome to the hero

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paranormal podcast

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thank you very much ryan it's a pleasure

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to be back

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it's great to have you back it is uh

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gosh so much has transpired

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since um i had you the first time

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and um

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a while hasn't it as it was it 16 months

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something like that

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since we last it's been a while yeah

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sorry carry on yeah and and you're your

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returning guest on the podcast this is

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uh the second time and there's a reason

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for that you know your stuff

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a lot of stuff has transpired and um

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since we spoke in last and how

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what's new how have you been and can you

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tell our listeners about the conscious

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music school

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uh a school in both meanings of the word

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uh one it's uh it's a virtual online

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learning process learning center it's

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for musicians and

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music lovers to come and learn about

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what it is that we have been unconscious

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about in the art of music for a very

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long time now how that's harming us and

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what we can do about it to become more

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conscious um

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more

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heart centered and shamanically wise

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artists and art lovers in the world

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that's one part of what the conscious

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music school is the other part of it is

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using the word school like you would say

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the romantic school or the

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post-modernist school the conscious

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stamping it as my intention to you know

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become a movement that it's uh

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it's a school of people who understand

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that music is

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a psychically powerful force

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and want to use it

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consciously and wisely for the

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betterment of their fellow human beings

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and to expunge from their art and from

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their habits

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all of the you might say

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to be dramatic about it black magic

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um processes that have been

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put on music in the past hundred years

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since our last show um that you're it

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that show hit me pretty hard that

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conversation because i

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have noticed that i'm a lot more careful

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of what i listen to with the exception

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of what my toddlers want to listen to

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which is usually the same thing over and

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what i've noticed is all for example

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when i'm in any kind of state if i get

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something to eat or if i'm in any kind

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the soundtracks of what they watch all

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day and it's just horrifying so it's

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very real and now for those who

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okay for those who believe that music

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and magic are not connected

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music used to have a very different

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effect on the population can we go into

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brought about uh forgive the term but

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dumbing down of music much like that

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that that childhood music stuff that

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comes into my head whenever i have any

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waking moment and the possible hidden

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motives for that like who may be pulling

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the strings to so to speak

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what you know music used to be different

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that question opens up uh an enormous

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uh comprehensive answer to that but i

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for those as you say for those who doubt

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that magic and music have any connection

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to each other i will focus down on one

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publicized you know published um

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records being sold to people

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slowly developing thing between i don't

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the the record as we recognize it

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that you can see as simply a mechanical

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uh shortcoming that needs to get solved

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the fact that when records were first

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substance that they were recording onto

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them it made better audio when you ran

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the record much faster and consequently

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rachmaninoff's new piano concerto that

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three or two or three minute chunks that

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limitation of the time and that got

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of getting used to the idea that music

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music that were three and four minutes

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have got solved at the start of the

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advent of the long playing record but

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agenda behind that deliberately or

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35-minute symphony you can see the

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distress in their eyes before you've

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even put the needle down on the record

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that the idea that anybody should pay

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dismiss the idea that we have slowly

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whether you believe it's deliberately or

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simply accidentally being programmed

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into listening to music in essentially a

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very scientific historically correct and

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concerning i mean the revamped music now

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again like for those who don't believe

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music and magic are real there's a very

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interesting way they meld and are

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lately and since we've spoken a lot of

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major popu musicians have

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you know better than i but uh lately the

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pop music icons have done some fairly

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ritualistic displays of occult magic

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under the guise of publicity a very

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actress megan fox being proposed to by

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rapper machine gun kelly

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kelly drank each other's blood after the

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rapper proposed and other examples you

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necessarily musicians in the traditional

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uh travis scott another rapper astro

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world and the symbolic occult props used

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in what is now being called a satanic

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festival blood sacrifice conspiracy

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theory and there are many other examples

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you know the satanic panic how is it

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this idea that

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um

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people cannot see a connection between

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music and magic

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i think for that

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um

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conclusion to be made

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most people would have to have a bit of

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a wonky idea of what magic actually is

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in the first place for those who

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have no experience of it at all they

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might imagine that magic is exclusively

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the realm of

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drawing pentagrams in chalk and blood on

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the floor and lighting candles and you

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know doing incantations and

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even making sacrifices and things like

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that

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in an old 17th century grimoire about

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the subject

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magic has dramatically moved on

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from that

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since the advent of

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magic

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can now take the form of

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simple mantras

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okay now the reason why a magician in

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the 17th century would have to perform

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so much

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uh ceremony around what they were doing

321
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was to be able to gather the power

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to be able to broadcast their intentions

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to an appreciable

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yeah

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that's aspect of magic where you need a

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power source in order to be able to push

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it out into the world

328
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well you don't need that anymore because

329
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in a world where

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without first knowledge of anything

331
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about magic you can write some words

332
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down on your computer and press a single

333
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button and literally a second later

334
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they're halfway around the world and

335
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somebody else is reading them

336
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with that kind of technology in

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existence

338
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the same technology that can stream

339
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infinite mp3s down into your phone

340
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you don't need that power of um

341
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broadcast

342
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strength

343
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being put into the actual ritual anymore

344
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because that's sorted for you by the

345
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technology that we have now

346
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all you need

347
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is to have

348
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one um enough of an audience that

349
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the message that you are sending

350
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gets

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deeply imp imprinted into you know an

352
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appreciable number of people

353
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and two

354
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the

355
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help of

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um a modern corporation that can

357
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spend the money to make sure that your

358
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particular song is shoved down the

359
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throats of people by repetition in many

360
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many different circumstances whether it

361
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be watching television or shopping in a

362
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supermarket or going down the club it's

363
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always the same songs and if it's always

364
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the same songs and it's always the same

365
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message in those songs

366
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and everybody around you seems to be

367
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subconsciously unconsciously or even

368
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consciously confident accepting the

369
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messages in the lyrics or accepting the

370
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messages that are subtle but are there

371
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inside the

372
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very vibrational and emotional tone of

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the music

374
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then that is affecting people

375
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and you know if you have millions of

376
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listeners to your music then you are

377
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affecting

378
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an appreciable uh fraction of the

379
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population

380
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and it's been

381
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demonstrated over and over that in order

382
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for a

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new thought form a new attitude a new

384
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um

385
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[Music]

386
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a new way of thinking about the world in

387
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order for it to become mainstream

388
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you really don't need more than about

389
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five to seven percent of the population

390
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to hold that attitude dear to their

391
00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:09,600
hearts for a while and it simply bleeds

392
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into the rest of the population and

393
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takes them over

394
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so even though

395
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you know

396
00:16:21,829 --> 00:16:19,360
one of these

397
00:16:24,470 --> 00:16:21,839
modern pop divas

398
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might actually have

399
00:16:29,829 --> 00:16:26,800
a large amount of the population look at

400
00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:29,839
them and go oh god no i don't want that

401
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:32,160
if they've got

402
00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:34,320
millions of followers

403
00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:38,560
listening to those songs over and over

404
00:16:41,990 --> 00:16:40,480
well then those people are being

405
00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:42,000
programmed by

406
00:16:45,990 --> 00:16:43,600
the the lyrical content and the

407
00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:46,000
emotional content of those songs and as

408
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such those people are vectors for

409
00:16:51,990 --> 00:16:51,199
everybody else

410
00:16:54,069 --> 00:16:52,000
so

411
00:16:57,189 --> 00:16:54,079
that's the form of how

412
00:17:00,310 --> 00:16:57,199
music can be magic without you ever

413
00:17:01,829 --> 00:17:00,320
having to get a candle or a wand out

414
00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:01,839
yeah

415
00:17:04,630 --> 00:17:03,199
so true

416
00:17:05,590 --> 00:17:04,640
and

417
00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:05,600
yeah

418
00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:08,160
no oh no please go on go on

419
00:17:11,189 --> 00:17:09,600
well i was just trying to remember i had

420
00:17:13,909 --> 00:17:11,199
two parts to this answer so please don't

421
00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:13,919
ask me the question again

422
00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:16,720
it was oh that was tricky the symbolic

423
00:17:21,909 --> 00:17:20,480
okay uh well with the recent the strange

424
00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:21,919
recent

425
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their antics they're they're quite

426
00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:29,039
obviously

427
00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:31,120
well satanist is a bit of a crude word

428
00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:32,960
for it but it fits in a lot of ways

429
00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:35,440
there say to this antics yes

430
00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:36,480
well

431
00:17:47,590 --> 00:17:45,669
the powers that be

432
00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:47,600
fully understand

433
00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:49,120
how powerful

434
00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:52,720
a medium music is for altering

435
00:17:56,950 --> 00:17:55,120
the minds the attitudes the emotions the

436
00:17:59,029 --> 00:17:56,960
vibrational states of

437
00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:59,039
the general public

438
00:18:02,230 --> 00:18:00,480
so it would

439
00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:02,240
be ridiculous to think that they

440
00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:03,600
wouldn't

441
00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:07,280
try to monopolize that just like they've

442
00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:09,120
tried to monopolize

443
00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:11,200
everything else like the news like

444
00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:14,960
health like education yeah

445
00:18:19,029 --> 00:18:16,799
they've done this

446
00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:19,039
by producing

447
00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:25,909
a layer

448
00:18:30,070 --> 00:18:27,120
of

449
00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:30,080
bureaucracy in between musicians

450
00:18:34,470 --> 00:18:33,120
producing music and people hearing it

451
00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:34,480
yeah and it's called the recording

452
00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:35,919
industry

453
00:18:42,549 --> 00:18:36,799
now

454
00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:42,559
been given

455
00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:43,440
the

456
00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:47,120
technology whereby we can you know

457
00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:48,880
pretty much publish music to the world

458
00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:50,640
for ourselves

459
00:18:55,909 --> 00:18:53,520
but we've had nearly a century of being

460
00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:55,919
in that system and that system is still

461
00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:57,760
hanging on to its power

462
00:19:00,390 --> 00:18:59,280
in the sense that

463
00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:00,400
it is

464
00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:02,720
holding the attention of many people who

465
00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:04,720
do not give music

466
00:19:08,630 --> 00:19:07,280
much of a

467
00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:08,640
conscious

468
00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:10,160
think through in their head but it's

469
00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:11,760
just something in their life that's

470
00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:14,640
there to cheer them up and fill the void

471
00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:17,360
of silence sometimes in their lives

472
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,270
that

473
00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:29,110
sorry i lost my throat second here let

474
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:31,600
me just pick it back up again

475
00:19:37,750 --> 00:19:35,360
in the sense that those people are still

476
00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:37,760
in one way much more successful than

477
00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:42,160
most go at your your own musicians

478
00:19:46,789 --> 00:19:44,720
they still hold court

479
00:19:48,630 --> 00:19:46,799
over the whole of music in a sense

480
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:48,640
because they have still got far more

481
00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:51,600
exposure than most solo

482
00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:53,919
not going through a recording company

483
00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:55,760
musicians yeah

484
00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:58,000
and as such they still hold this thing

485
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:00,400
that says well if you want to be famous

486
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:05,029
and

487
00:20:11,029 --> 00:20:08,400
that is a filtering mechanism

488
00:20:14,549 --> 00:20:11,039
that to this day makes sure

489
00:20:16,950 --> 00:20:14,559
that the only people who get into

490
00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:16,960
the recording industries and you know

491
00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:18,720
have enough money and exposure put

492
00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:20,640
behind them that within

493
00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:22,400
six months to a year of the recording

494
00:20:25,110 --> 00:20:23,600
company getting involved with them

495
00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:25,120
they're suddenly very famous on the

496
00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:26,400
planet

497
00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:28,799
it filters out those people from that

498
00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:31,440
system who would say

499
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:34,320
no i'm not doing this immoral thing for

500
00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:37,120
you i'm not putting this nasty message

501
00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:39,840
out that i don't agree with okay because

502
00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:41,840
they've already seen

503
00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:43,120
the

504
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:58,400
comes back and says well if you want

505
00:21:03,029 --> 00:20:59,919
some more of it you're going to do what

506
00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:03,039
i say again yeah so not only are these

507
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:06,559
people that are that famous

508
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:09,679
pre-selected in that sense of being

509
00:21:15,029 --> 00:21:12,880
bendable to somebody else's will

510
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:15,039
but they're also clearly people who do

511
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:16,559
not understand

512
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:18,400
the

513
00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:24,400
by being

514
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:27,440
a musician responsible for

515
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,559
uh

516
00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:30,320
filling the ears of millions of people

517
00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:31,679
with ideas

518
00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:32,880
but then

519
00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:34,640
opening that

520
00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:39,750
list of ideas up that they use to be

521
00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:42,159
filled up by people who have

522
00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:43,840
no good intentions for the general

523
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:49,350
yeah i think people's uh

524
00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:52,240
morality is but the lubricant to the

525
00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:54,640
machine that makes this thing happen and

526
00:22:00,630 --> 00:21:57,280
they realize that after they sign on

527
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:00,640
and it's one of those

528
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:02,799
you know magical connections this

529
00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:06,240
connection between music and magic and

530
00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:09,600
its recent displays are are just wild i

531
00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:13,120
find that it's funny however whenever

532
00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:16,000
the truly elite are depicted on

533
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:17,200
television

534
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:19,120
they are well dressed

535
00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:20,000
uh

536
00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:22,960
in rolls-royces listening to classical

537
00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:26,240
music a sort of in-your-face example

538
00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:29,520
much like the um occult in music videos

539
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:31,280
fulfilling that magical principle of

540
00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:32,880
having to tell you

541
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:35,200
or tell your victim that what you're

542
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:36,799
doing before you do it therefore

543
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:38,960
shedding the moral karma having allowed

544
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:41,679
them to the opportunity to disengage

545
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:44,400
tricky stuff has involved with magic and

546
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:46,480
music for years it seems

547
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:48,159
what are your thoughts on that that they

548
00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:50,320
always depict the elite the same way and

549
00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:52,720
listening to classical music which

550
00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:56,799
obviously was a more uplifting music

551
00:23:00,070 --> 00:22:58,480
well there's two sides to it there's

552
00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:00,080
there's simply the image that they're

553
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:02,400
portraying that they are cultured people

554
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:03,440
i guess

555
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:06,240
but yes also probably more importantly

556
00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:10,799
is the idea that uh sorry everybody but

557
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:13,200
the simple truth of it is that if you

558
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:15,679
listen to classical music more than any

559
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:17,760
other kind of genre of music

560
00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:22,320
you will end up more emotionally stable

561
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:24,400
more emotionally

562
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:26,799
literate about what's going on inside

563
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:27,600
you

564
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:28,640
and

565
00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:29,170
you will

566
00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:30,880
[Music]

567
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:33,280
generally have a slightly better quality

568
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:35,280
of life i've had this conversation with

569
00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:37,840
many people now and you know the number

570
00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:39,840
of people that have sort of bitten the

571
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:41,679
bullet after this conversation said yeah

572
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:43,440
i am going to actually stop listening to

573
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:45,039
this kind of music

574
00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:47,279
and i'm going to expand on the little

575
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:49,440
bit of classical music that i actually

576
00:23:52,470 --> 00:23:51,039
already listen to

577
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:52,480
and go and listen to more and then they

578
00:24:00,310 --> 00:23:53,760
come back to me months later and they

579
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,230
um

580
00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:04,960
so

581
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:06,000
yeah the

582
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:07,919
they there is this

583
00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:10,240
element that they are

584
00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:11,600
um

585
00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:13,440
pushing that in your face

586
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,000
for you to see that yes you know if

587
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:18,240
you're going to be one of the elite then

588
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:19,200
um

589
00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:21,760
listening to classical music has some

590
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:23,360
part of it i'm not going to try to

591
00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:25,360
connect it with cause and you know

592
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:26,559
effects or anything like that but

593
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:28,159
there's some part of it

594
00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:29,679
um

595
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:31,679
but the other part was the other thing i

596
00:24:39,669 --> 00:24:38,149
no i've lost the threat of that bit ask

597
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:39,679
me another question please

598
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:47,029
a quick thought and this is since our

599
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:50,400
last conversation and podcast

600
00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:52,240
i did exactly that and i started i

601
00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:54,159
purchased some classical music and i

602
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:56,080
listened to it and oh my gosh do you get

603
00:25:00,630 --> 00:24:57,840
more tracks for the money but that's not

604
00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:00,640
even the point i

605
00:25:06,149 --> 00:25:02,320
i notice that

606
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:06,159
uh it almost seems as if different parts

607
00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:08,480
of the brain fire

608
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:10,320
and yes

609
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:12,559
it is something that calms the children

610
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:16,000
in the back seat and it's the weirdest

611
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:18,559
weirdest thing

612
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:20,799
i noticed a difference so

613
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:23,840
the obviously does the music you listen

614
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:26,240
to affect your life and how much and

615
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:28,080
then i want to get into the hippie

616
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:31,200
culture and was it a psyop

617
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:32,880
okay

618
00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:34,640
well here's my

619
00:25:39,669 --> 00:25:36,559
take on

620
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:39,679
why music affects people the way it does

621
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,600
in a nutshell

622
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:43,440
and it's quite a

623
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:44,640
far out

624
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:45,679
um

625
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:46,960
idea

626
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:48,960
so you know forgive me take this with a

627
00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:51,440
pinch of salt chew it see what's see how

628
00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:56,080
much of it rings true for you

629
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,039
i think of music as

630
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:01,200
an information source that comes from

631
00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:04,000
the natural world

632
00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:05,200
for

633
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:08,480
tens of thousands of years the only

634
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:11,360
sources of music or anything resembling

635
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:14,880
music that we had

636
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:17,279
were bird song

637
00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:19,440
human voiced song

638
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:21,039
and what we had in the way of

639
00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:23,360
instruments drums and pipes maybe

640
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:26,159
trumpets and string instruments okay

641
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:29,039
every single one of these things

642
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:30,480
not only

643
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:34,159
uh vibrated in its own very particular

644
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:37,039
way so even if a human being

645
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:39,440
mimics birdsong you can tell it's a

646
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:41,600
human being mimicking bird song and not

647
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:44,240
a bird similarly if you try to make a

648
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:47,279
noise like a flute on a violin you can

649
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:49,039
kind of do a half job of it and yet

650
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:50,799
people are listening to it going yeah

651
00:26:56,110 --> 00:26:52,240
that's a violin trying to sound like a

652
00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:56,120
flute okay everything has its

653
00:27:00,789 --> 00:26:57,760
representative

654
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:00,799
uh vibration to it yeah

655
00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:03,760
and it's a natural vibration

656
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:05,600
now

657
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:06,880
in the past

658
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:09,679
30 years or so we have had the advent

659
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:11,679
the advent of

660
00:27:20,789 --> 00:27:15,440
digital music processing

661
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:20,799
besides the simple fact that

662
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:22,799
it always

663
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:26,480
takes the information from the air from

664
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:29,200
two little not ear shaped

665
00:27:33,909 --> 00:27:31,520
uh machines called microphones

666
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:33,919
and usually pumps it back out to you

667
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:35,200
through two

668
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:37,440
not instrument shaped things called

669
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:40,080
speakers or headphones

670
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:42,240
and yes you can say that it does a you

671
00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:44,240
know a half decent job of reproducing

672
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:46,000
the sound yes it does

673
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:47,679
and yet

674
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:50,720
i personally feel that every human can

675
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:54,000
subconsciously tell the difference

676
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:56,240
and that what we have been doing this

677
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:58,640
century by listening to so much recorded

678
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:01,440
music and now it's worsened terribly

679
00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:04,399
since we've been using uh digitally

680
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:06,320
manipulated music

681
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:08,320
is that we are listening to things which

682
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:10,559
the subconscious might understand is

683
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:11,919
artifice

684
00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:12,799
okay

685
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:14,000
so

686
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:17,440
even just the idea of radically changing

687
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,480
the reverb on a snare drum hit in a pop

688
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:22,480
song

689
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:24,960
something that uh a very famous what's

690
00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:25,600
the

691
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:30,399
in that famous uh phil collins song from

692
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:32,320
the aces that started that whole trend

693
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:35,840
off of having backwards reverb and so on

694
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:38,720
these things are physically impossible

695
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:42,320
you cannot make these kinds of sounds

696
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:46,480
by any acoustic means yeah

697
00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:48,640
so if they're not part of the natural

698
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:50,480
world

699
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:52,880
then isn't your subconscious

700
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:54,399
understanding the fact that you are

701
00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:56,320
listening to something which is not part

702
00:29:04,149 --> 00:28:59,760
of the natural world yeah it's something

703
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:07,029
most of what we listen to nowadays

704
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:08,960
is not only

705
00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:12,000
digitally recorded and reproduced

706
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:15,039
but it's digitally mangled in the middle

707
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:17,200
of its composition as well

708
00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:18,240
yeah

709
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:19,360
even in

710
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:21,120
most most pop songs i mean this

711
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:22,559
horrendous thing that

712
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:25,360
almost nobody no non-musician understand

713
00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:26,960
is that if you get a band into a

714
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:29,200
recording studio and they have a drummer

715
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:31,679
with them and they play a storming drum

716
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:33,200
track

717
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:36,559
still afterwards the recording engineer

718
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,440
will take that storming drum

719
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:41,279
track and

720
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:43,679
simply go through and replace every

721
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,399
single one of the drum hits with their

722
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:48,480
favorite drum sound that they've got in

723
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:50,000
their store

724
00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:51,600
and just make those drums play at the

725
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:54,399
same rhythms as the drummer played okay

726
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:57,200
you will not get a natural drum

727
00:30:01,990 --> 00:29:59,520
recording from most pop songs it's

728
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:02,000
completely unnatural

729
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:03,760
now

730
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:05,360
it's all right to say

731
00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:08,240
i could go to some fast food joint um

732
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:10,159
buy a burger from that fast food joint

733
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:13,360
which is only you know 22 percent meat

734
00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:14,960
and 78

735
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:17,279
god knows what

736
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,200
you'd survive it unless it was you know

737
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:20,880
something terribly poisonous it wouldn't

738
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:22,960
do you that much damage but that's not

739
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:24,960
the same thing as saying i'm gonna live

740
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,360
on these things

741
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:29,600
and if you're listening to pop music all

742
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,520
the time or you're listening to any kind

743
00:30:35,269 --> 00:30:33,279
of music you know it could be electronic

744
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:35,279
dance music is just just as guilty of

745
00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:37,600
this if not more so yeah

746
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:39,679
that you are essentially listening to an

747
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:41,200
artificial

748
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:42,640
sound source all the time you're not

749
00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:46,000
listening to any real object to vibrate

750
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:47,360
not even the

751
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:50,000
the vocals in these songs is how they

752
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:51,120
came out

753
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:54,320
it's all been altered and as such i

754
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,320
equate it as i do with a lot of things

755
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,799
in music i equate music and food or

756
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:00,960
music that's soul food and if all of

757
00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:03,440
your soul food is coming from artificial

758
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:04,880
means

759
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,799
well i think you can guess how bad i

760
00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:08,799
think that is for you and what damage

761
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:16,789
yeah i believe that's true and

762
00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:19,440
you know listening to the ron music it

763
00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:23,600
seems can stunt you spiritually in a way

764
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:25,760
yeah

765
00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:28,080
here's the thing with

766
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:30,080
classical music

767
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:32,159
to go off on a a somewhat different pack

768
00:31:38,470 --> 00:31:35,679
here but one yes it is a a large

769
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:38,480
collection of acoustic instruments

770
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:40,320
uh not only acoustic instruments but

771
00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:41,600
acoustic instruments you know if you're

772
00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:43,360
listening to an orchestra

773
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:45,840
usually unless it's a youth orchestra

774
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:48,799
everybody in that orchestra is already a

775
00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:51,120
real master of their instrument way

776
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:53,360
beyond you know grade eight passing

777
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:54,880
federal level

778
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:57,919
so it's not just you know a lot of um

779
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:59,600
pop musicians nowadays they rely on

780
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:01,120
their electronics to make them sound

781
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:03,440
like a half decent musician you cannot

782
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:05,760
do that in classical music you have to

783
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:07,039
actually be

784
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:09,120
capable of producing what people are

785
00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:11,760
going to hear okay

786
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:13,760
so that's one part of it the other part

787
00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:16,320
of it is that

788
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:17,840
because of this thing i said about you

789
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:20,159
know the shortening of forms over the

790
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:22,799
last century and how we are all now used

791
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:25,200
to the idea of

792
00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:26,399
uh

793
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:29,360
imbibing music in three-minute chunks

794
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:30,240
well

795
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:33,760
if you just translate this into um

796
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:37,440
words spoken language for a minute okay

797
00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:39,039
consider the difference between reading

798
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:40,880
a book

799
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:42,880
and going on twitter

800
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:45,120
where you're allowed what is it 144

801
00:32:47,730 --> 00:32:46,799
characters of an utterance at a time

802
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:47,740
something like that

803
00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:49,360
[Music]

804
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:50,480
twitter

805
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:52,480
is set up

806
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,720
to create arguments

807
00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:56,640
because people can't explain themselves

808
00:33:03,029 --> 00:32:59,919
because they don't have room to do it

809
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:03,039
yeah they have to um reduce what they're

810
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:05,919
trying to say down to a uh

811
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:08,240
a headline almost

812
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:10,880
and in doing so

813
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:13,360
all the subtleties have to be ironed out

814
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:15,120
of it yeah

815
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:18,399
now this is true in music if you insist

816
00:33:21,269 --> 00:33:19,760
that you know you're not going to write

817
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:21,279
music that's any longer than three

818
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:23,760
minutes long a piece

819
00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:24,480
then

820
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:26,799
the idea that you could

821
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:28,399
um

822
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:31,519
set a theme out and then develop on that

823
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,000
theme in any way

824
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:36,480
is already restricted because you simply

825
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:39,039
haven't got time to do it

826
00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:41,760
in a piece of classical music

827
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:43,919
such time restrictions were never

828
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:46,080
considered a part of it you know

829
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:47,840
yes classical music

830
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:50,640
composers did write short pieces as well

831
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:53,279
but many of them wrote very long pieces

832
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:55,760
and if a piece of music that stretches

833
00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:58,880
out over half an hour well that's

834
00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:00,399
essentially the same thing as reading a

835
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:02,399
book it's got time

836
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:03,600
to

837
00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:06,640
not just explain itself and develop

838
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:10,079
itself better but in doing so it will

839
00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:11,599
engage

840
00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:13,760
far more elements of

841
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:16,720
the human mind and the human brain

842
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:18,240
in doing so

843
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:19,760
because it's going further into the

844
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:21,679
depth of things and it's making you

845
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:24,480
compare and contrast what you've already

846
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,000
heard with what you're hearing now

847
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:30,720
and in doing so it wakes up

848
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:33,280
a kind of a an analytical part of the

849
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:36,240
mind that pop music seems to almost be

850
00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:43,270
so true

851
00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:45,839
and before we speaking of limits i'm

852
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:49,119
getting a limit from my

853
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:52,000
audio here of 10 minutes so but i'm

854
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:54,960
before we get into a couple more quick

855
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,399
questions i want

856
00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:58,400
you to tell people where they can keep

857
00:35:01,670 --> 00:35:00,240
up with what you're doing

858
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:01,680
and what you have going on because i

859
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:04,320
think it's pretty impressive stuff

860
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:07,680
okay um you can find me on youtube you

861
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:09,920
can find me on facebook you can find me

862
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:11,359
on

863
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:14,079
uh odyssey and bit shoot if you just

864
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:16,400
type in the word the conscious music

865
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:19,040
school and you can find my website at

866
00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:21,920
theconsciousmusicschool.com

867
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:24,320
what i offer to people well let's just

868
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,280
go through

869
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:27,119
uh two or three things that i offer here

870
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:29,680
one for non-musicians for people who

871
00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:33,040
simply love music and actually want to

872
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:35,040
understand what they're going through

873
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:36,880
and what they're subjecting themselves

874
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:39,119
to when they listen to music i have a

875
00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:40,560
little um

876
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:43,520
study at home pdf course

877
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:46,800
called soul food or poisonous music

878
00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:49,119
which if you um

879
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:50,800
put a couple of hours of study in every

880
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,720
week for three months

881
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:54,720
you will come to a place by using that

882
00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:56,560
course where

883
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,880
you begin to understand

884
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:00,480
the

885
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:03,200
influences that your music choices will

886
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:05,359
have on you and you can begin to make

887
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:07,359
wiser choices about so that's for the

888
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:08,880
non-musicians

889
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:11,200
for the musicians

890
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:12,800
i offer

891
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:16,320
um a kind of drop-in specialist service

892
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:17,359
for

893
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,320
one people who are having

894
00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:22,880
problems with their performing

895
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:25,760
if they are troubled by mind issues such

896
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:30,240
as shyness or nervousness or forgetting

897
00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:31,920
and i also have

898
00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:34,480
a drop in service for people who have

899
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:36,560
come to the place where they understand

900
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:38,000
that

901
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:40,400
what they're doing in music does not

902
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:44,079
match does not uh vibe with their actual

903
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:46,720
spirit anymore and they need to come to

904
00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:48,560
a place where their arc starts to

905
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:50,800
reflect their soul more i'm a specialist

906
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:53,599
in directing people um through a short

907
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:54,720
course

908
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:56,560
into a more

909
00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:57,760
sole

910
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:00,000
and heart-centered place in their

911
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,160
musicianship

912
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:04,320
i also have at the moment

913
00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:06,880
um some

914
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:09,200
slots open for anybody who wants to come

915
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:11,200
and study full time with me for an hour

916
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:13,200
a week

917
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:19,270
start a new way of teaching people music

918
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:21,599
from the outset which is a much more

919
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:23,599
holistic way of thinking

920
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:25,359
whereby i

921
00:37:30,069 --> 00:37:26,720
include

922
00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:30,079
the body the emotions the mind the soul

923
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:32,720
and then the instrument and the audience

924
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:35,280
in everything that i teach by musicians

925
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:36,640
right from

926
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:40,640
grade 1 upwards rather than

927
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:43,359
the modern idea that you simply focus on

928
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:44,560
the instrument

929
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:47,119
and the theory and the history that goes

930
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:49,359
with it which essentially leaves the

931
00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:50,800
human being sat in the room with the

932
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:52,079
teacher out

933
00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:54,720
i go the opposite way and i say okay so

934
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:57,359
you're a musician are you a human being

935
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:58,480
yet

936
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:00,640
when you're a human being properly then

937
00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:02,320
you can be a musician

938
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:04,880
so that's my service for people who are

939
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:07,440
looking for a regular teacher

940
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:09,599
um and want something

941
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:10,640
a little

942
00:38:15,190 --> 00:38:13,440
more reflective of their capacities as

943
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:15,200
you know an intuitive or a highly

944
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:18,960
managed highly imaginative person or

945
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:24,470
yeah absolutely you're doing it seems

946
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:26,320
you're doing more than anyone in the

947
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:27,839
field and

948
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:29,839
it's so true about the music you listen

949
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:31,359
to

950
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:33,839
the fact that the music industry has

951
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:37,040
strong connections to the cia and fbi is

952
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:39,839
also interesting and disturbing

953
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:41,680
what are they injecting into our music

954
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:44,720
and why would this

955
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:47,200
you know have started in the 60s could

956
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:48,880
it have started sooner

957
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,200
you know it's hard to tell isn't it

958
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:54,240
it didn't start in the 60s no definitely

959
00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:00,550
obvious enough that we can now pick up

960
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:02,400
on the history of it to the degree that

961
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:04,079
five or six books have been written all

962
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:06,240
about that subject

963
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:14,310
if you go back to

964
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:16,400
the

965
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:23,760
1799 1800 yeah

966
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:26,480
if you go back to that time this was a a

967
00:39:30,069 --> 00:39:27,680
time in

968
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:30,079
european culture at least

969
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:31,680
where

970
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:33,839
a system that had been running for a

971
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:37,359
long long time where either

972
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:40,880
an upperclass rich person or the church

973
00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:44,320
was a sponsor of a musician and they

974
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:47,440
gave them a pension you know a a weekly

975
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:50,079
wage and then expected them to

976
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:51,040
uh

977
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:52,880
carry out their g

978
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:55,119
very strange we're talking about the cia

979
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,359
the fbi when the music industry had

980
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:59,920
strong connections and

981
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:01,520
disturbing enough

982
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:04,079
we get disconnected

983
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:06,400
okay he's going to try to shoot me over

984
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:09,040
a link and see if i can log on to his

985
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:11,440
this audio this is odd

986
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:14,000
hello hey how you doing

987
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:15,760
good

988
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:18,400
we're back on that was so strange the

989
00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:20,319
fact that we're talking about the cia

990
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:22,400
and fbi and injecting stuff into our

991
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:25,119
music and then this takes place no it's

992
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,710
uh yeah so so obviously um

993
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:34,400
they are injecting something into the

994
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:37,440
music it's it's been there since before

995
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:39,359
the thank you so much for doing that by

996
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:41,200
the way sending me a link

997
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:42,160
and

998
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:44,079
the um

999
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:45,520
they've been doing this since before the

1000
00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:48,960
hippie culture you were saying and it is

1001
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:51,440
possibly back to the 1920s is that

1002
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:52,480
correct

1003
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:55,520
no no no further further i mean look

1004
00:41:02,790 --> 00:40:59,359
it's it's been understood for millennia

1005
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:02,800
that music is a powerful force to shape

1006
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:04,960
societies to shape the attitudes of

1007
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:07,680
society um

1008
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:10,079
it's very difficult to trace back the

1009
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:12,000
actual uh

1010
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:14,319
actions of the people who wanted to

1011
00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:16,000
influence it because obviously those

1012
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:18,079
things won't be

1013
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:19,920
accurately and clearly recorded in

1014
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,119
history too much but just consider this

1015
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:24,800
that at the

1016
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:26,400
you know that turn of the century as i

1017
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:29,440
was talking about into the 1800s

1018
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:30,960
that

1019
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,640
europe had been in a culture where all

1020
00:41:37,589 --> 00:41:34,560
the musicians that were

1021
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:37,599
being paid and making a living from it

1022
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:39,920
were already in the employ of the upper

1023
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:41,440
classes or the church

1024
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:43,359
so they had control over them to a

1025
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:44,880
degree they could say no don't do that

1026
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:47,440
you're not going to get paid yeah

1027
00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:48,640
but

1028
00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:50,720
at that time you know during the

1029
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:53,119
lifetime of beethoven

1030
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:57,599
the advent of the self-employed self um

1031
00:42:01,030 --> 00:42:00,079
publicizing musician came along

1032
00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:01,040
yeah

1033
00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:02,640
and suddenly

1034
00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:05,599
as is obvious from uh

1035
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:07,520
listening to some of beethoven's works

1036
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:09,839
such as the seventh symphony which is

1037
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:12,960
uh filled full of french revolutionary

1038
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:14,560
songs

1039
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:17,440
um

1040
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:20,000
the the hold that the the upper classes

1041
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:21,920
had over the musicians started to slip

1042
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:24,560
away huh and they didn't have the same

1043
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:26,800
control over them anymore

1044
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:29,520
this is the time when the advent of that

1045
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:31,280
middle layer that i was talking about

1046
00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:33,280
you know the music industry

1047
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:36,079
starts to show itself in the form of

1048
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:40,480
impresario and music critics and

1049
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:42,480
you know the people who own the theaters

1050
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:44,160
and the people who pay for the

1051
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:45,920
orchestras okay

1052
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:47,839
as soon as they felt like they couldn't

1053
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:49,920
actually control the composers and the

1054
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:53,599
solo performers anymore they just built

1055
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:55,599
this industry around them which was

1056
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:57,359
there to you know

1057
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:59,920
publicize their music to the public

1058
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:01,920
and then took over that and made their

1059
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,829
we might not have had such a forceful

1060
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:11,599
capacity to change things as you know

1061
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:13,920
simply being

1062
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:16,560
the pope and saying no you can't write

1063
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,160
that in the match

1064
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:20,480
okay but it still had some control and

1065
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:22,560
as soon as

1066
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:24,800
the the advent of recording came along

1067
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:27,119
they saw it as

1068
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:30,400
a powerful method of commoditizing

1069
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:32,319
the whole output of musicians and

1070
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:35,119
regaining control over its distribution

1071
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:36,560
fully

1072
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:38,560
so

1073
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:42,079
slowly bubbling up into our

1074
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:44,000
consciousnesses and being aware of this

1075
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,520
thing of uh

1076
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:47,280
the whole hippie movement

1077
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:49,680
music of the 60s and you know high

1078
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:51,760
ashbury and

1079
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:53,119
california

1080
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,079
being a cia

1081
00:44:02,069 --> 00:43:59,589
it's

1082
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:02,079
what we're looking at there is just one

1083
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:03,920
chapter

1084
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:09,270
how they've used

1085
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:13,280
public arts music especially to shape

1086
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:15,040
the

1087
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:22,160
um

1088
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:24,079
what was going on in the in the 60s

1089
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:25,839
movement was simply that

1090
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:27,520
there already was

1091
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:28,880
a

1092
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:32,000
underground bubbling up

1093
00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:34,319
not controlled by them

1094
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:35,599
movement

1095
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:36,880
of

1096
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:38,560
um

1097
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:41,680
first of all anti-war sentiment you know

1098
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:44,880
to do with the vietnam war especially

1099
00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:47,119
and also to do with

1100
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:48,480
um

1101
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:51,760
throwing off the societal programming

1102
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:54,240
that had been so you know clamped down

1103
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:56,560
on people in the 40s and 50s

1104
00:45:00,150 --> 00:44:57,359
and

1105
00:45:01,750 --> 00:45:00,160
getting back to a more somatic

1106
00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:01,760
and

1107
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:02,720
uh

1108
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:06,560
instinctual kind of way of being

1109
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:08,560
and both of those things

1110
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:09,839
were threats

1111
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:11,680
to the authorities

1112
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:12,480
so

1113
00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:16,720
familiar to us nowadays the easiest way

1114
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:19,599
to control such a thing is to move in on

1115
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:21,839
it and take it over

1116
00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:22,800
so

1117
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:25,520
what originally started as you know an

1118
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:27,520
anti-war sentiment

1119
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:29,920
simply became a sentiment of

1120
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:31,920
let's all just get completely blitzed

1121
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:33,200
out of our heads

1122
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:34,960
and

1123
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,319
step out of society to the degree that

1124
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:40,079
we don't actually have any influence on

1125
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:48,150
so true

1126
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:51,109
and you know that control it's moved

1127
00:45:56,550 --> 00:45:53,520
it's it's moved into different areas

1128
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:56,560
different bases different i almost feel

1129
00:46:01,990 --> 00:45:59,760
that through this

1130
00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:02,000
any let's just go i i don't want to get

1131
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:10,470
opportunity

1132
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:11,440
that

1133
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:12,960
music

1134
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:16,960
media things of that nature are used

1135
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:18,640
to convey

1136
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:21,280
particular messages

1137
00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:26,870
something very important that

1138
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:30,560
also seems to be of extreme legitimacy

1139
00:46:36,870 --> 00:46:33,760
is there seems to be a parallel between

1140
00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:36,880
iq and the mucin that the music that you

1141
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:40,160
listen to can we go into that a little

1142
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:42,240
okay yes well i think that's a bit of a

1143
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,750
right

1144
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:51,670
a way of listening to music which is

1145
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:53,680
entirely passive and requires no

1146
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:55,760
intelligence whatsoever you know it's

1147
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:57,440
perfectly possible to listen to a piece

1148
00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:59,280
of dance music and jiggle up and down to

1149
00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:01,200
it and enjoy yourself and

1150
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:03,520
hey presto it's done its job

1151
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:05,359
there's nothing wrong with that you know

1152
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:07,040
that's a perfectly good function of

1153
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:08,240
music to

1154
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:10,319
loosen you up physically and put you in

1155
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,240
a better emotional place just by

1156
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:14,640
movement alone that's fine

1157
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:16,319
but that's not what

1158
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:18,160
music can do

1159
00:47:22,829 --> 00:47:20,079
or it's a tiny fraction of what music

1160
00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:25,670
and you i guess

1161
00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:27,200
we're coming to a place now where it's

1162
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:29,680
becoming very obvious that

1163
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:32,240
in order to get any more out of music

1164
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:34,400
than that you almost have to be kind of

1165
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:37,040
ritually inculcated into the art

1166
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:39,839
somebody has to come to you and say look

1167
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:41,680
this is a piece of music

1168
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:43,200
that i really want you to listen to

1169
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:45,440
because for me personally it can do this

1170
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:47,680
this this this and this to me

1171
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:48,880
it's not just something that makes you

1172
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:50,800
smile for two minutes and then think oh

1173
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:53,440
that was fun and that's it it actually

1174
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:56,400
it made me feel better for days on end

1175
00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:58,880
it cleared my mind about this it gave me

1176
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:01,280
solace when i considered this situation

1177
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:03,119
many many different things it's like

1178
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:04,640
people have to be

1179
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:06,480
shown nowadays

1180
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:09,440
that music can do those things to them

1181
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:10,880
otherwise

1182
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:16,309
don't go looking for it and in not

1183
00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:18,640
looking for it even when it floats past

1184
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:20,720
their faces they don't really recognize

1185
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:22,079
it okay

1186
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:24,800
but if you are inculcated into it

1187
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:27,119
either by you know accident by simply

1188
00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:29,359
having music played to you that really

1189
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:31,599
got to you in more

1190
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:34,880
in deeper ways than a pop song

1191
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:36,880
or you actually had somebody who really

1192
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:38,640
understood the power of music and showed

1193
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:39,920
you it

1194
00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:42,480
then you get hooked into the idea that

1195
00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:45,680
um in order to

1196
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:48,240
drain the value from music for yourself

1197
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:50,480
in order to suck the juice out of it you

1198
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:53,520
actually have to listen

1199
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:55,040
consciously

1200
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:56,400
not just have it playing in the

1201
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:57,760
background while you do the washing up

1202
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:59,280
and the opening

1203
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:01,440
but you actually have to sit down and

1204
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:02,640
take it in

1205
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:04,800
with all of your attention just like you

1206
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:06,240
would if you were

1207
00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:08,480
in front of a 12 foot oil painting in a

1208
00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:10,000
an art gallery

1209
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:11,599
you wouldn't just sort of glance over it

1210
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:13,440
and go oh right yeah and then look away

1211
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:15,440
again you'd understand that if you were

1212
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:18,160
going to take any of the meaning

1213
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,880
and the power out of that oil painting

1214
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:22,319
you'd have to stand in front of it for a

1215
00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:24,160
few minutes and study it and look at

1216
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:27,920
everything that was going on in it and

1217
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:30,400
connect the symbols going on in the

1218
00:49:36,549 --> 00:49:33,760
painting to you know understood uh

1219
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:36,559
themes in culture and how they might be

1220
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:37,839
symbolized

1221
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:40,480
it's a two-way street you have to chew

1222
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:41,359
on it

1223
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:43,040
in order to get

1224
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:45,839
the nutrition out of it to go back to

1225
00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:48,319
that food analogy

1226
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:49,839
and

1227
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:50,880
when

1228
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:52,319
you come to that place where you

1229
00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:53,839
understand

1230
00:50:02,710 --> 00:49:59,990
music can give you more worth

1231
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:02,720
more value when you do that with it than

1232
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:04,960
when you're simply a passive listener

1233
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,119
then at that point

1234
00:50:11,589 --> 00:50:09,599
music can begin to feed you things which

1235
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:11,599
will build up

1236
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:13,520
your

1237
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:19,040
things that you would not get if you

1238
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:21,760
were only using it passively

1239
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:24,160
as a habit

1240
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:26,079
it's a very powerful thing it's

1241
00:50:29,589 --> 00:50:28,480
something that used to get men to go to

1242
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:29,599
war

1243
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:30,480
and

1244
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:33,760
i mean it broadcasting from a base

1245
00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:36,079
and this is something that

1246
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:38,160
um

1247
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:40,640
the parallels it

1248
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:43,359
you know when when it comes to the music

1249
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:46,160
industry i do find it funny and

1250
00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:47,920
hilarious that everybody thinks they're

1251
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:50,240
a bunch of luciferian you know goat

1252
00:50:52,829 --> 00:50:51,680
worshipping

1253
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:52,839
uh

1254
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:56,000
satanic but it's a good display

1255
00:50:58,950 --> 00:50:57,599
it's a good disguise it's so it's so

1256
00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:58,960
dramatic and over the top that most

1257
00:51:02,069 --> 00:51:00,800
people will look at it and go yeah right

1258
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:02,079
mate okay

1259
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:04,160
and then dismiss anything else that

1260
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:06,160
might be going on that's a bit like that

1261
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:07,440
under the surface

1262
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:15,510
they have good public relations uh

1263
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:18,319
officers on their case because they

1264
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:21,280
almost make fun of themselves

1265
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:22,640
and

1266
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:24,640
they sell more records that's what's

1267
00:51:27,990 --> 00:51:26,880
fascinating

1268
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:28,000
well

1269
00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:32,160
i think they sell more records because

1270
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:36,160
there's an enormous uptick in narcissism

1271
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:37,839
in western culture

1272
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,880
and

1273
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:40,559
if you can actually

1274
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:43,440
somehow subtly display to people

1275
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:45,839
uh that your

1276
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:49,119
your your um commoditized piece of art

1277
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:50,480
you know in the form of a two three

1278
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,400
minutes twentieth pop song

1279
00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:54,720
is definitely going to

1280
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:56,880
make you feel good

1281
00:52:02,069 --> 00:51:58,960
without ever impinging on any of your

1282
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:02,079
deep or possibly problematic emotions or

1283
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:05,359
challenging you in any way well you are

1284
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:07,119
basically advertising

1285
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:09,040
to narcissists

1286
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:11,119
you're saying this is this is a

1287
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:13,359
a quick little hit of a drug that will

1288
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:14,559
make you feel better and won't give you

1289
00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:15,920
too much of a

1290
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:18,319
a hangover and it certainly won't give

1291
00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:19,920
you any of those deep questions that a

1292
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:22,240
nasty psychedelic might

1293
00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:23,359
yeah

1294
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:26,000
and it is it is it is a drug of sorts

1295
00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:28,400
everyone's been in their car had that

1296
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:31,839
song playing at that moment and realized

1297
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:35,760
wow the power of music right

1298
00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:37,920
well if you want to

1299
00:52:41,589 --> 00:52:40,079
estimate this in yourself

1300
00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:41,599
consider this this will not strike

1301
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:43,119
everybody in your audience but it may

1302
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:45,119
strike some people really hard

1303
00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:47,119
there are some people who have got into

1304
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:48,559
a habit

1305
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:49,440
with

1306
00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:51,920
the way that three-minute pop songs and

1307
00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:53,839
what three-minute songs in general work

1308
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:54,720
where

1309
00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:58,870
all a three-minute pop song can

1310
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:00,720
generally do unless it's you know

1311
00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:02,960
produced by an absolute master all it

1312
00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:05,119
can do is to

1313
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:07,760
sort of push one emotional state into

1314
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:09,680
you yeah

1315
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:11,920
even try and push two emotional states

1316
00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:13,760
into a three-minute song you're in

1317
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:15,280
danger of

1318
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:17,280
losing the efficacy of either of them

1319
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:20,800
yeah so this is one so much modern music

1320
00:53:25,829 --> 00:53:24,000
uh barely even changes its kind of

1321
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:25,839
emotional tone throughout three minutes

1322
00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:27,280
long is because they're just trying to

1323
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:29,680
push one emotional state onto you

1324
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:31,680
and it can be very successful in doing

1325
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:33,839
that you know you can be in a very

1326
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:36,960
down and grumpy and glum state and you

1327
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:38,720
put the right piece of pop music on that

1328
00:53:42,309 --> 00:53:40,319
you've had memories of dancing to and

1329
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:42,319
having fun in the past and it can

1330
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:45,359
completely change your mood state yeah

1331
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:47,359
but here's what i was trying to point

1332
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:49,760
out to people is that there are people

1333
00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:51,520
in our society now

1334
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:54,839
who use that

1335
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:57,920
methodology that quick hit of a drug

1336
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:00,160
like that to um

1337
00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:06,790
that they use it so often that they have

1338
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:07,920
become

1339
00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:09,119
um

1340
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:13,119
essentially addicted habituated to

1341
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:14,880
uh

1342
00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:17,440
only being able to regulate their

1343
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:20,079
emotions through that methodology and

1344
00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:22,160
should you take that away from them and

1345
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:25,599
say can you cheer yourself up

1346
00:54:29,829 --> 00:54:27,440
they're powerless to do it now because

1347
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:29,839
they've got so used to the pattern that

1348
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:32,640
they're in of having to

1349
00:54:37,829 --> 00:54:35,119
you know use that little external

1350
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:37,839
pick-me-up to do it but they don't know

1351
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:39,760
any other way of doing it

1352
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:42,079
contrast this with

1353
00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:43,040
um

1354
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:44,880
you know a half hour long piece of

1355
00:54:50,829 --> 00:54:47,760
classical music that in the midst of it

1356
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:50,839
somewhere may have a section which is

1357
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:53,599
intensely you know

1358
00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:57,599
black depressed or glum or

1359
00:55:02,630 --> 00:54:59,440
angry as hell

1360
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:02,640
and it that music will have a transition

1361
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:04,720
out of that state

1362
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:06,400
into a state of

1363
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:07,440
bliss

1364
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:11,359
or you know triumphalism or just sheer

1365
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:13,440
warmth and happiness

1366
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:15,359
if you listen to that piece for long

1367
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:18,079
enough repeatedly

1368
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:20,319
that will soak into you and you will

1369
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:22,960
learn the methodology of how to bring

1370
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:25,040
yourself back out of that one state to a

1371
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:26,640
better place because that's what the

1372
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:29,040
music is teaching you

1373
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:31,040
this is the difference between

1374
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:33,520
what i call you know a quick one

1375
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:38,870
pick me up

1376
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:42,160
and real medicine

1377
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:43,040
real

1378
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:46,880
medicine what a great word for it oh my

1379
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:50,000
gosh simon and it is

1380
00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:51,599
to bring yourself back to the center

1381
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:58,710
i mean if the government is using it as

1382
00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:01,200
psyops it's obviously a very powerful

1383
00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:03,599
tool that can

1384
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:04,799
adjust

1385
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:06,640
bring you to places

1386
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:08,319
that have strong

1387
00:56:15,270 --> 00:56:10,960
connections spiritually

1388
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:15,280
and have you rise to places that

1389
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:18,880
some may not want you to rise to

1390
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:20,079
absolutely

1391
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:22,640
um that's you know if you look at what's

1392
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:24,880
been pushed

1393
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:27,200
on people as popular music for the past

1394
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:28,640
hundred years

1395
00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:30,960
i defy you to find more than three

1396
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,319
percent of it

1397
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:34,319
that actually

1398
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:35,760
puts you in a

1399
00:56:40,789 --> 00:56:38,240
genuinely spiritually heightened place

1400
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:40,799
after listening to it it's a very tiny

1401
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:42,960
amount and that tiny amount that has got

1402
00:56:48,069 --> 00:56:45,359
through i put it to you it's leaked

1403
00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:48,079
through somehow as if by the actions of

1404
00:56:54,309 --> 00:56:50,799
angels trying to you know prevent the

1405
00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:54,319
complete takeover of music

1406
00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:55,280
yes

1407
00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:57,760
and speaking of that like uh just i know

1408
00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:00,079
we're going over a little bit but the

1409
00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:02,480
amazing

1410
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:05,760
the artists themselves classical

1411
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:08,640
musicians themselves

1412
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:11,040
they were not

1413
00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:16,720
things for strategy or out of

1414
00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:18,240
publicity

1415
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:23,359
necessarily looking you know doing crazy

1416
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:25,280
the things we see today

1417
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,760
they weren't doing that in in

1418
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:29,040
in fact

1419
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:29,610
they were

1420
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:32,000
[Music]

1421
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:35,040
savants that did not fit into society

1422
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:38,400
mozart comes to mind beethoven i mean

1423
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:41,920
so many huge names that really

1424
00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:48,390
there were musicians back then that were

1425
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:50,799
doing that sort of thing to gain

1426
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:54,400
publicity were there oh wow the scene

1427
00:57:59,109 --> 00:57:57,040
behind it was not as big and therefore

1428
00:58:01,829 --> 00:57:59,119
you know it didn't make us such a an

1429
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:01,839
impact but uh let's let's not pretend

1430
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:04,799
that you know it's it's only

1431
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:06,480
wonderfully spiritually evolved people

1432
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:09,760
that ever wrote music in the past

1433
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:12,160
for instance franz liszt

1434
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:13,520
became

1435
00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:15,280
so uh

1436
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:18,000
became such a kind psychic phenomenon

1437
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:19,680
that

1438
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:22,640
not only would you know people faint at

1439
00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:24,160
his concerts

1440
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:26,799
uh just some kind of emotional overload

1441
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:29,440
but it got to the point uh in his in his

1442
00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:31,200
middle twenties when he was doing a tour

1443
00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:33,599
around europe that the women of a town

1444
00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:35,040
where he was going to play that night

1445
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:37,040
would wait at the outskirts of the town

1446
00:58:41,349 --> 00:58:38,720
for him to arrive in a carriage and

1447
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:41,359
horses and they would unhook the horses

1448
00:58:45,670 --> 00:58:43,839
and drag their prize into town for

1449
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:45,680
themselves

1450
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:50,640
okay so yes these kinds of um

1451
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:53,119
public relations kind of explosions did

1452
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:55,440
happen back then but at least with

1453
00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:57,280
somebody like franz liszt

1454
00:59:05,430 --> 00:58:58,319
he

1455
00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:05,440
you know let this run its course for a

1456
00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:07,839
few years until he was rich and then got

1457
00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:09,839
the hell out of it and gave up

1458
00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:11,760
performing in public for the rest of his

1459
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:14,240
life and became a composer because in

1460
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:16,720
truth he couldn't stand these people

1461
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:23,270
so yes there always have been dark

1462
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:25,040
forces in music you know there are there

1463
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:26,319
are famous

1464
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:28,880
uh composers who are absolute epitomes

1465
00:59:33,589 --> 00:59:30,400
of this but

1466
00:59:34,870 --> 00:59:33,599
they used to be the exception

1467
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:34,880
nowadays

1468
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:37,760
the exception is the person who can

1469
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:40,160
play you music for a few minutes and you

1470
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:42,160
feel instantaneously

1471
00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:44,079
lightened

1472
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:45,599
softened

1473
00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:48,000
in half

1474
00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:50,559
and usually they add it to some kind of

1475
00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:53,520
advertising at least in pop culture

1476
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:56,319
and i know we're way over here for a sec

1477
00:59:59,829 --> 00:59:58,160
um don't worry about me you go on as

1478
01:00:01,670 --> 00:59:59,839
long as you like you're you're so

1479
01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:01,680
passionate about this we had some

1480
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:04,799
technical difficulty folks and

1481
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,000
um

1482
01:00:11,990 --> 01:00:08,400
simon bridged the gap and saved the

1483
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:12,000
episode but the interesting thing is um

1484
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:13,440
he's going over with me so i'm going to

1485
01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:19,589
the the parallel between that

1486
01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:20,799
there is

1487
01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:25,839
money in music because it is raw emotion

1488
01:00:30,309 --> 01:00:28,799
that has been transcribed in a way to

1489
01:00:33,750 --> 01:00:30,319
take others

1490
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:33,760
to a place they cannot get to without

1491
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:36,400
that assistance and i feel that the

1492
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:38,480
airwaves

1493
01:00:44,789 --> 01:00:41,119
have been interestingly

1494
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:47,910
advertising is a very huge

1495
01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:49,920
huge

1496
01:00:53,270 --> 01:00:51,920
business

1497
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:53,280
and

1498
01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:55,359
there may be a reason why what we're

1499
01:01:00,549 --> 01:00:58,160
listening to

1500
01:01:03,829 --> 01:01:00,559
is uh

1501
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:03,839
programming not necessarily music and

1502
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:06,079
it's important that we are

1503
01:01:11,829 --> 01:01:07,920
as you said

1504
01:01:13,470 --> 01:01:11,839
tasteful in what we choose to listen to

1505
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:13,480
well let me talk about

1506
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:17,599
valuelessness for a second here

1507
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:20,079
do you remember in our childhoods

1508
01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:21,920
that if you loved a piece of music you

1509
01:01:25,670 --> 01:01:23,760
went down to a record shot and you paid

1510
01:01:27,990 --> 01:01:25,680
good money for it to get handed a

1511
01:01:30,069 --> 01:01:28,000
physical object that you take home and

1512
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:30,079
you put on a media player of some sort

1513
01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:31,920
or another and you'd listen to

1514
01:01:35,220 --> 01:01:33,040
and

1515
01:01:36,309 --> 01:01:35,230
you were quite happy with that um

1516
01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:36,319
[Music]

1517
01:01:40,150 --> 01:01:38,640
dopamine cycle of going oh yeah i've

1518
01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:40,160
heard 10 seconds of that and i know i

1519
01:01:44,230 --> 01:01:42,720
like that guy so let's go and spend some

1520
01:01:45,670 --> 01:01:44,240
money on that spend some hard earned

1521
01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:45,680
cash on that

1522
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:47,359
go and listen to it yeah

1523
01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:49,440
and you would

1524
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:51,599
appreciate the value in that whole

1525
01:01:55,349 --> 01:01:53,599
exercise

1526
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:55,359
nowadays

1527
01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:58,240
you go on spotify

1528
01:02:02,309 --> 01:02:01,119
and spotify will not only give you music

1529
01:02:04,870 --> 01:02:02,319
for free

1530
01:02:07,430 --> 01:02:04,880
in an instant

1531
01:02:08,309 --> 01:02:07,440
it will also insult the person who wrote

1532
01:02:10,150 --> 01:02:08,319
it

1533
01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:10,160
by giving them naught point naught

1534
01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:12,400
naught naught something sense for your

1535
01:02:14,950 --> 01:02:13,599
listen

1536
01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:14,960
yeah

1537
01:02:30,870 --> 01:02:15,760
the

1538
01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:30,880
know you could listen to music for your

1539
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:33,200
entire life nowadays for free could you

1540
01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:35,440
not you could it's just

1541
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:39,520
it's everywhere okay and in that um

1542
01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:42,720
social media of having

1543
01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:44,880
so much

1544
01:02:50,309 --> 01:02:47,760
music for free the concept that it has

1545
01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:50,319
to have value

1546
01:02:57,910 --> 01:02:55,829
because

1547
01:02:59,910 --> 01:02:57,920
if you're not giving any value out to

1548
01:03:00,710 --> 01:02:59,920
get that music

1549
01:03:02,230 --> 01:03:00,720
well

1550
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:02,240
subconsciously at least you're not

1551
01:03:07,990 --> 01:03:06,480
expecting any value back are you

1552
01:03:10,150 --> 01:03:08,000
and this is part of what's happened to

1553
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:10,160
music is that we've all slowly and

1554
01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:11,920
gently but

1555
01:03:15,910 --> 01:03:13,440
very um

1556
01:03:17,750 --> 01:03:15,920
thoroughly been programmed that music is

1557
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:17,760
this thing that just you know it floats

1558
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:19,760
around us in the in the virtual ether

1559
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:21,280
and we can have as much of it as we like

1560
01:03:25,109 --> 01:03:22,880
for nothing

1561
01:03:26,870 --> 01:03:25,119
uh perhaps yes of course if you you

1562
01:03:29,270 --> 01:03:26,880
really love somebody's music then you

1563
01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:29,280
still go and buy the cd or you know a

1564
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:31,280
high quality flat of their recording or

1565
01:03:36,870 --> 01:03:33,839
something like that but

1566
01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:36,880
we've lost the idea that it was always

1567
01:03:42,069 --> 01:03:39,280
dying throughout this century

1568
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:42,079
and the the millions of

1569
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:45,119
breadline musicians that existed you

1570
01:03:49,349 --> 01:03:46,720
know um

1571
01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:49,359
show the evidence of this but

1572
01:03:55,270 --> 01:03:52,240
we just don't value

1573
01:03:57,589 --> 01:03:55,280
the art of music

1574
01:03:59,589 --> 01:03:57,599
anything like as much as we did back

1575
01:04:01,510 --> 01:03:59,599
before the advent of

1576
01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:01,520
uh not just

1577
01:04:07,510 --> 01:04:03,440
you know easily

1578
01:04:09,829 --> 01:04:07,520
instantaneously accessible virtual

1579
01:04:12,150 --> 01:04:09,839
streams of these things but even just

1580
01:04:14,470 --> 01:04:12,160
the the advent of music force at the

1581
01:04:17,349 --> 01:04:14,480
advent of music recording full stop

1582
01:04:20,069 --> 01:04:17,359
back when in order to listen to music

1583
01:04:22,150 --> 01:04:20,079
you had to have a musician in your

1584
01:04:24,150 --> 01:04:22,160
presence

1585
01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:24,160
then that musician had some kind of

1586
01:04:28,309 --> 01:04:26,319
value that

1587
01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:28,319
it was worth

1588
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:30,400
paying for

1589
01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:33,680
and that has slowly disappeared

1590
01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:40,390
in the place that we're in

1591
01:04:46,069 --> 01:04:43,440
in 2022 with

1592
01:04:47,270 --> 01:04:46,079
you know so much

1593
01:04:49,029 --> 01:04:47,280
hollowness

1594
01:04:50,309 --> 01:04:49,039
and hypocrisy

1595
01:04:51,190 --> 01:04:50,319
and

1596
01:04:53,430 --> 01:04:51,200
uh

1597
01:04:54,549 --> 01:04:53,440
narcissism and

1598
01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:54,559
vanity

1599
01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:01,510
all attributes sold to us as positives

1600
01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:03,680
sadly yeah

1601
01:05:09,349 --> 01:05:06,079
what i'm what i'm suggesting is that

1602
01:05:10,390 --> 01:05:09,359
this whole advent of expecting recording

1603
01:05:12,309 --> 01:05:10,400
music

1604
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:12,319
to be

1605
01:05:23,750 --> 01:05:13,520
a

1606
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:23,760
i think we're coming to the end of this

1607
01:05:28,390 --> 01:05:26,400
i think we're going into a time

1608
01:05:31,270 --> 01:05:28,400
when

1609
01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:31,280
the true worth of musicians is going to

1610
01:05:37,510 --> 01:05:35,440
reappear and the true worth of musicians

1611
01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:37,520
i'm afraid cannot be transgender

1612
01:05:43,829 --> 01:05:40,880
transmitted through a cd through an mp3

1613
01:05:45,340 --> 01:05:43,839
it just can't you have to be in the room

1614
01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:45,350
with them

1615
01:05:49,910 --> 01:05:46,559
[Music]

1616
01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:49,920
there are elements to a musician's art

1617
01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:52,240
that are not only

1618
01:05:57,750 --> 01:05:54,960
not included in the sound but actually

1619
01:05:59,430 --> 01:05:57,760
included in the the electromagnetic

1620
01:06:00,390 --> 01:05:59,440
emotional

1621
01:06:03,270 --> 01:06:00,400
field

1622
01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:03,280
of both the musician and the listeners

1623
01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:05,039
in that room and how the musician can

1624
01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:08,079
affect that through their emotions

1625
01:06:12,549 --> 01:06:09,920
simply because everybody in the room is

1626
01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:12,559
paying full attention to them

1627
01:06:17,829 --> 01:06:14,880
but also the

1628
01:06:18,950 --> 01:06:17,839
feedback loop that comes from a musician

1629
01:06:21,109 --> 01:06:18,960
feeling

1630
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:21,119
how you are responding and reacting to

1631
01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:24,000
their playing and subtly changing their

1632
01:06:27,430 --> 01:06:25,920
playing and their

1633
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:27,440
in order to

1634
01:06:34,470 --> 01:06:31,200
reflect your reaction and your response

1635
01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:34,480
i'm sincerely hoping that a large number

1636
01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:36,400
of people begin to see

1637
01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:37,920
that

1638
01:06:45,109 --> 01:06:39,359
the

1639
01:06:49,109 --> 01:06:45,119
that you can

1640
01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:49,119
you know pop in a machine and

1641
01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:52,799
music just comes sailing back out of it

1642
01:06:57,029 --> 01:06:55,440
is actually a bit of a con job

1643
01:07:00,069 --> 01:06:57,039
it's a bit

1644
01:07:01,670 --> 01:07:00,079
hollow by comparison with the real

1645
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:01,680
experience

1646
01:07:05,829 --> 01:07:04,480
of going to listen to musicians and as

1647
01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:05,839
such

1648
01:07:13,670 --> 01:07:10,870
middle men

1649
01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:13,680
that have been in control for so long

1650
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:15,920
because they have had that middle layer

1651
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:18,640
in between the listener and the musician

1652
01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:20,640
i'm hoping that's going to dissolve

1653
01:07:22,789 --> 01:07:21,599
again

1654
01:07:27,029 --> 01:07:22,799
through

1655
01:07:31,829 --> 01:07:29,029
audiences

1656
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:31,839
coming to the realization that there is

1657
01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:34,799
more value to music when you are with a

1658
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:37,520
musician and when there isn't

1659
01:07:43,910 --> 01:07:41,280
but also in musicians responding to the

1660
01:07:45,390 --> 01:07:43,920
audience is coming to that realization

1661
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:45,400
by

1662
01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:47,039
specializing

1663
01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:48,559
not in

1664
01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:51,359
being that kind of musician who

1665
01:07:55,109 --> 01:07:53,280
disappears into a studio for two months

1666
01:07:57,270 --> 01:07:55,119
and then comes out with an album and let

1667
01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:57,280
the whole load of middlemen

1668
01:08:04,309 --> 01:07:59,920
push that product out into the world no

1669
01:08:08,470 --> 01:08:04,319
musicians that specialize in

1670
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:08,480
playing to an audience of 20 people

1671
01:08:12,309 --> 01:08:10,400
few enough that you can actually see

1672
01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:12,319
every single one of their faces as you

1673
01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:13,520
play to them

1674
01:08:17,269 --> 01:08:15,520
and giving them an experience because

1675
01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:17,279
you are that close and that intimate

1676
01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:19,679
with them giving them an experience of

1677
01:08:26,149 --> 01:08:20,560
art

1678
01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:28,550
and i've had those experiences i'm sure

1679
01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:29,920
many have

1680
01:08:34,149 --> 01:08:31,600
where

1681
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:34,159
you know the musician controls in the

1682
01:08:39,189 --> 01:08:36,560
room it's much like magic

1683
01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:39,199
and every everyone is involved everyone

1684
01:08:44,789 --> 01:08:41,040
is engaged

1685
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:44,799
and it's a memorable experience and um

1686
01:08:50,229 --> 01:08:47,040
you you've definitely connected the dots

1687
01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:50,239
between music and magic and spirituality

1688
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:52,319
i can't thank you enough for coming on

1689
01:08:56,630 --> 01:08:53,839
again simon

1690
01:08:58,470 --> 01:08:56,640
let's go into where everyone can tap

1691
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:58,480
into what you've got going on and the

1692
01:09:02,709 --> 01:08:59,759
amazing

1693
01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:02,719
stuff you have to offer

1694
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:04,080
it's been a pleasure thank you very much

1695
01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:09,430
and yeah

1696
01:09:13,590 --> 01:09:11,279
the links one more time yeah let's get

1697
01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:13,600
the links out one more time there is the

1698
01:09:18,829 --> 01:09:16,000
conscious music school is that correct

1699
01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:18,839
yeah my main website is

1700
01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:20,319
theconsciousmusicschool.com that's an

1701
01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:22,159
intelligence test if you sell it wrong

1702
01:09:32,070 --> 01:09:28,070
and also you can find me on

1703
01:09:33,990 --> 01:09:32,080
youtube and facebook and bitshoot and

1704
01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:34,000
odyssey

1705
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:36,960
amazing amazing stuff and amazing stuff

1706
01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:39,040
you're doing you're you're

1707
01:09:43,030 --> 01:09:40,799
you're definitely

1708
01:09:45,430 --> 01:09:43,040
doing everything that people wish they

1709
01:09:46,829 --> 01:09:45,440
could do to change society and culture

1710
01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:46,839
in a way that

1711
01:09:51,430 --> 01:09:48,400
is

1712
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:51,440
amazing and that's music

1713
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:52,799
if you're a listener right now and

1714
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:54,080
you're thinking

1715
01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:56,800
this is close to my heart please come

1716
01:10:01,669 --> 01:09:59,280
and contact me because yeah i do feel

1717
01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:01,679
pretty alone in this right now and i do

1718
01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:03,280
want a group of people around me who

1719
01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:05,600
believe the same thing so yeah come

1720
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:07,440
forward if you if your heart has been

1721
01:10:13,830 --> 01:10:09,760
set fired by this conversation please

1722
01:10:18,709 --> 01:10:16,790
it's awesome it is great and thanks

1723
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:18,719
again i hope you have a great one and

1724
01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:24,070
good to speak to you ryan see you soon

1725
01:10:27,510 --> 01:10:25,600
take care

1726
01:10:30,870 --> 01:10:27,520
well there you have it ladies and

1727
01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:30,880
gentlemen simon siddle

1728
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:34,320
the conscious music school

1729
01:10:41,430 --> 01:10:38,480
talking government psyops spiritual

1730
01:10:43,750 --> 01:10:41,440
music habits

1731
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:43,760
the truly elite what are they listening

1732
01:10:47,189 --> 01:10:44,640
to

1733
01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:47,199
is is there a reason they are depicted

1734
01:10:51,510 --> 01:10:49,120
on tv as

1735
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:51,520
listening to classical music for no

1736
01:10:56,830 --> 01:10:53,280
reason at all because they're just so

1737
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:00,550
now as far as a great conversation simon

1738
01:11:08,709 --> 01:11:06,550
for those who believe music and magic

1739
01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:08,719
are not connected i very much

1740
01:11:14,390 --> 01:11:12,320
believe we proved the opposite today

1741
01:11:16,630 --> 01:11:14,400
simon is

1742
01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:16,640
well let's just say

1743
01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:18,719
he knows his stuff

1744
01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:25,590
what's new what's next i don't know

1745
01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:27,120
but keep your eye

1746
01:11:31,189 --> 01:11:28,560
on that dial

1747
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:31,199
and what you choose to listen to until

1748
01:11:36,310 --> 01:11:33,600
next time keep your eyes to the skies

1749
01:11:40,940 --> 01:11:36,320
feet on the ground don't forget to take

1750
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:49,270
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